Thursday, November 28, 2013

Guns and Domestic Violence




Dissident Voice

Single Florida male, 30, wants to meet caring female.  Must like guns — a new Zimmerman ad?

Ladies — do you recognize this guy? He is volatile, possessive, moody and prone to adult temper tantrums. He plays the tough guy but reserves his ire for women, children and even pets. When you’re through with his huffing and puffing and bullying and try to leave him — he turns violent and you need to get an order of protection.
George Zimmerman is the classic domestic batterer whose brushes with the law become more frequent and extreme until he is stopped. Partners of batterers end up dead with alarming frequency. Still, the NRA unabashedly defends domestic abusers’ “rights” to remain armed while they are under orders of protection from terrified wives and girlfriends. Why? Because the right to own and carry a gun is more sacred to the gun lobby than victims of domestic violence! The NRA and other gun rights groups have “beaten back legislation mandating the surrender of firearms in domestic violence situations,” says the New York Times.

14 comments:

  1. I'm not really surprised you picked an article that neglects to mention that Shellie and her father changed their stories after the police arrived. And that the girlfriend and her mother were busy shopping her tell all interview to the highest bidder when the event at her place happened.

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    1. Yeah, GZ is the real victim in all these incidents.

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    2. I'm not saying that Zimmerman is an innocent victim. I'm saying he has the right to due process. But as in most relationships, there's some blame to be had on both sides.
      The article is an editorial which makes no attempt at either fairness or accuracy. It will be interesting to see what happens during the process here. My guess is that with the potential credibility issues, there will likely be a plea deal offered that might very well not include anything that would prevent his possession of firearms.
      I might be wrong of course because there might be evidence that would change the power balance that affects these negotiations. And if this does happen, you and Japete, and the rest will lament the injustice of the justice system.

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    3. Zims wife was afraid to press charges, that's common, especially in domestic abuse cases. The girlfriend is cooperating with police and is not backing down. The process has already taken his guns, that makes the community safer.

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    4. ss, no one wants to circumvent due process. Why do you even bring that up? What we're talking about here, again, is the several Zimmerman incidents in quick succession that seem to indicate he's got a problem.

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    5. "Zims wife was afraid to press charges,"

      Actually here father was there for the event also. They both signed paperwork declining to press charges.

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    6. The guy has had multiple violent incidents and killed a guy. I wouldn't want to file charges against him either, especially if I had to live with him.

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    7. George Zimmerman's girlfriend is asking a judge to lift an order that blocks her from seeing him and says she doesn't want charges filed against him.
      In a court document obtained by CNN Monday, Samantha Scheibe says she wants a no-contact provision against Zimmerman lifted so the couple can "talk and be together."
      "I am not afraid of George in any manner and I want to be with him," she says.
      http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/justice/george-zimmerman-girlfriend/index.html

      Well, I certainly didn't see this one coming. All I can say to George, is RUN! run far away from that woman. She is certifiably nuts.

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    8. So far, that's an ex-wife and an ex-girlfriend. What's wrong with George that he keeps picking women like this?

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    9. And Zim is not nuts? HA HA HA HA
      I doubt a violent killer like Zim could attract a sane woman.

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  2. Mikeb, I've given you my position. I have no problem with domestic abusers being locked up for a long stretch--upon conviction. That latter requirement is the key point, though.

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    1. It's not about locking them up prior to conviction, it's about removing the guns. Some of the most violent and dangerous men are the subject of these orders but you want to seize on the possibility of a frivolous complaint by a vindictive partner to allow all of them to keep the guns. That's how biased you are, Greg.

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    2. Yes, I'm biased in favor of a justice system that doesn't punish people before conviction.

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    3. You don't follow the law, so what's the problem?

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