Wednesday, October 22, 2014

Florida Woman Injured by a Dropped Gun - Another One

Local news reports

A woman was clearing out a closet and forgot about a loaded, .22-caliber gun that was on the shelf, according to Bellbrook police. The gun fell and discharged a bullet into the woman’s right calf, police said. 

She was taken by squad to Miami Valley Hospital for treatment. She was the only one in the home, said police, who advise residents not to keep a loaded gun unsecured in your home.

17 comments:

  1. My guess that this isn't a dropped gun, but rather finger on the trigger syndrome.

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  2. "said police, who advise residents not to keep a loaded gun unsecured in your home."

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  3. ANOTHER dropped gun goes off.
    The gun loons on this site say this cannot possibly happen. HA HA HA HA HA HA

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    1. "The gun loons on this site say this cannot possibly happen."

      Actually Anon, most of the pro-gun folk here have said previously that modern firearms have safeguards to prevent that from happening.
      I think its a hoot that you seem to be quite anxious to believe this gun owner's explanation, yet when we give cited data which challenges your assertions, the bearer of these inconvenient facts is called a liar.

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    2. And the troll keeps lying since he has no confidence in any other tactic.

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    3. "And the troll keeps lying since he has no confidence in any other tactic."

      I think its especially interesting that while those of us on the pro-gun side are tending to place the responsibility on the person who supposedly "dropped" the gun by calling BS and positing that the true cause was failure to keep their finger off the trigger and therefor turning an "accident" into negligence.
      You on the other hand seem quite fixated on placing the blame on the firearm itself. As I've said in the past, true accidental discharges are quite rare and the majority of these accidental discharges are more accurately negligent discharges.
      We have actually discussed one of the rare cases of an accidental discharge here a while back.

      "Almost all modern semi-automatic handguns, except some exact replicas of antique models, have some form of safety mechanism including a "drop safety" that requires a trigger pull to discharge a cartridge. "

      "Most modern double-action revolvers have an internal safety, either a hammer block or a transfer bar, that positively prevents firing without the trigger being pulled."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_(firearms)#Drop_safeties

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    4. SSG,

      The troll I was referring to was the anti-gun anonymous--left my comment before yours had posted. The dismissive tone was aimed at him because of his constant lies claiming that we say that a dropped gun can never fire--this in spite of posts by you, me, and others who all say that older models predating these systems can still fire when dropped.

      I think your suggestion that many of these are the result pulling the trigger is plausible--also plausible that they were trying to catch a dropped gun and accidentally pulled the trigger. In this case, though, I could see this being an older .22 without a hammer block or some type of cheap, tiny one without it--plausible either way.

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    5. Love the way you gun loons try to backtrack your lies. So according to you all these dropped gun stories we read are either lies, or all the guns must be very old. HA HA HA HA HA Thanks to good reporters we can call that bullshit.

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    6. Really Anon? You think a plucky reporter got a scoop on this by sneaking into the hospital so he can talk to the injured woman? Or more likely, just talked to an officer on the scene, who likely just told him what the woman told them.
      If for example, they had mentioned what kind of gun it was, I might think you had something. Your reliance on reporters also depends on if they're reporting what you want to hear.

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    7. I don't believe the "most modern firearms" claim. It was probably written by a biased gun nut. There are just too many of these stories for you to keep dismissing them like that.

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    8. "There are just too many of these stories for you to keep dismissing them like that."

      Here is the cited source for my previous comment Mike, it doesn't sound like the author is a biased gun nut,

      http://books.google.com/books?id=VbrDbbHAflsC&pg=PA372#v=onepage&q&f=false

      Or perhaps the other Anon is correct and its a lot of people making wild grabs for a falling gun and the finger goes in the trigger. But that would also fall under both of our definitions of negligence.
      I'm assuming that the Corps had a similar form of "recognition" as the Army for those that dropped their weapon on the ground.

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    9. Sorry SS you guys can keep insisting dropped guns don't go off while I keep reading the stories of how they do constantly. And yes, I will believe the news reports over your opinion.

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    10. "And yes, I will believe the news reports over your opinion. "

      I think that's really cool Anon. I'll keep that in mind the next time a reporter says something I agree with. Then you'll be in quite a pickle.

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    11. If all these guns being dropped were over 100 years old, I'm sure that would have been mentioned in the 100's of cases reported. I'm in no problem of being in a pickle because I choose to believe the 100's of reports over your opinion not backed by facts.

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    12. Who said the guns have to be over 100 years old to not have these drop safeties? You continue to misrepresent our statements Anti-Anon.

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    13. No, I continue to call you gun loons who insist guns cannot go off when dropped, liars, and the reports prove me correct.

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